Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Little Lawyers Everywhere (Redux)

I have been sick for the past several days. Mr. M picked up a bug when he went camping and it hopped on me, leaving me in no shape to write. Even my dreams are sick: Rick Santelli made a pass at me on the trading floor; Ben Bernanke started growling while he was testifying before Congress.

So here's a re-hash of my third blog post, from last August.
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Ever wonder what makes a good lawyer? Behold, it is your little one, the super lawyer in the car seat. Kids come armed with the skills of a trained litigator, trial lawyers growing in the womb.

Instinctively expert at forum shopping, manipulation, and debate, they could bloody F. Lee Bailey in the backyard wading pool long before they're eight. Masterful negotiators, stern and forceful promulgators (DO NOT ETER THIS ROOM UNLESS YOU KNOCK FIST), they come equipped with elephant memories and perfectly callibrated bull sh-t meters.

As adults we loom large, the inevitable and unwitting targets of these formidable foes. Even the most stalwart of parents will disintegrate in a face-off with these verbal warriors. "Alright, damn it. Go have a sugar coma. Eat the blasted cookie."

But be forewarned: this Perry Mason moment is kiddie catnip to a child, compelling him to pursue more victories with the tenacity of a crack addict.

So when your little one arrives, it's time to get down and lawyered up. Here, a brief tutorial of what to expect from your litigator.

* Forum shopping: which parent (or third party) is most likely to give the kid what he wants? Mr. M is a champion forum shopper. As in, "Hmm. I would like a Sprite. Who best to prey upon at this moment? Mom? The waiter? (as I exit for the bathroom) Yes, the waiter. I'll order up a Sprite right now." (See also shuttle diplomacy, as in "Dad, Mom said I can't have any chocolate milk, but I know you'll say yes since I haven't had any sugar all day.")

* Cross-examination (a/k/a beating a dead horse): kids just know how many times and in how many ways they must ask a question to get the right answer. Mr. M: "But you just said you wanted me to be excited on my first day of school. Are you now saying I CANNOT have this new lunch box? Have you lost your mind? Have you already forgotten what you said?" (See also, framing the issue)

* Framing the issue: you can get the answer you want to any question, so long as you ask the right question. Mr. M: "Mom, you want me to be the happiest kid there is, right?" (Me, like Charlie Brown's teacher: wonk wonk wonk) "Okay. You're the one who said it. I get to wear my Spiderman suit every day at school for the first week. It's all settled then." (Me: wonk wonk WONK!)

They also try their luck at framing the answer. Me: "Why are these dirty clothes on the floor next to the hamper?!" Mr. M: "I aimed wrong."

* Preemptive Strikes: They'll just answer the question for you. Get ready for the ubiquitous, "Okaaaay . . . I'll take that as a yes," when you are on the phone with the teacher, doing CPR on your neighbor, or are otherwise overwhelmed. And when all else fails for the child litigator, you may hear, "Alright. That's your final answer! By the way, today is opposite day!"

WONK WONK WONK!

25 comments:

Kristina P. said...

YOu are too funny! I never thought about kids being lawyers, but you are so right!

The Mother said...

We've been telling our kids they'd make great lawyers since they were old enough to talk. Or at least since we spent thousands of dollars having them taught to talk.

The Engineer, for example, is a master of circular logic. By the time he's done, I can't even remember the original pitch.

The Grouch is our forum shopper. (That's a GREAT phrase. Gotta remember that).

The Goth is the master of framing the issue, usually in terms of some bizarre science junk (he's the guy who's room IS organized. Chronologically, by smell).

And Stretch is the Ethicist. You wouldn't want to get caught treating any of your sons DIFFERENTLY, right? That wouldn't be fair...

I can't understand why none of them want to go into law. The Goth, especially, would be great. But he has this strange notion that he wants to WRITE. Hmmm, I wonder where he got that?

Hope you feel better soon. Can't wait for that Geithner explanation.

Becky said...

wonk wonk WONK! I think this must be how my voice sounds to my daughter. In fact, sometimes I'll turn to my husband and say, "Is my voice not making any sound?" We call it "mama deafness."

They are naturally wily, kids.

The Dental Maven said...

Ooooo, sorry you got the bug! Hope you're on the mend Girl.

What's the name for the police tactic used to elicit false confessions? My son employs that strategy most. He wears us down into agreement.

Vered - MomGrind said...

Ben Bernanke growling? I ca totally see that.

Feel better soon!

the Mayor said...

My life is a constant negotiation with someone from the cast of characters I live with. I should have been a lawyer...oh I forgot I get bored too easily at meetings.Can I get away with texting and doing sudoku while I'm lawyering?

alicesworld said...

This post is awesome! I love it. I can't wait for my little guy to start manipulating me . . . oh wait he already does. He won the battle (without words I might add) of getting to play outside during dinner. I won the battle of him NOT eating rocks. Oh the give and take of parenthood.
PS - hope you feel better soon.

A Lawyer Mom's Musings said...

Pulsipher, get ready. Kids? They'll run rings around you and you will marvel at your perceived dumbness.

Mother, your kids have totally missed their calling. Circular reasoning and all that? They're golden. Re the forum shopping, I call it parent shopping at my house and the penalty is death. Well . . . almost death. No sugar, anyway.

Becky, it's like the old cartoonist (damn it, am having a senior moment and can't remember him) who drew the Ginger, blah blah dog. Was it the Cavlin & Hobbes guy? Doggone it why can't I remember this cartoonist! Must take my gingobiloka.

Maven, most police use brute force to cooerce confessions. Sorry to break the news to you. Advise your kids to hold tight and do nothing wrong. That way they're at least semi-protected from police brutality. Semi, anyway.

Vered, yes, it was quite weird. Bernanke said the economy was like a snake and then he started growling, which made absolutely no sense. The folks in Congress seemed unphased (in my dream) but all the bloggers lept up and ran to their keyboards. I am truly sick to have a dream like this.

Mayor, you can get away with amazing stuff as a lawyer. Only just don't be texting during trial. The TX Supreme Court saw nothing wrong with a defense atty who slumbered through an entire trial but the U.S. Supremes thought better.

Thanks, Alice's world, I am feeling better. Not so much fever, not so much coughing.

I think the Geithner plan is what made me sick. I promise more details will be forthcoming. Just don't want to nail it to the cross until I'm sure. At this point, though, I'm pretty sure. Hopefully will have it up by Thurs. or Friday.

Skunkfeathers said...

Kids are much better lawyers than me. They even beat me in the "oh YEAH?" litigatorial matches. And their quick to pick up on the fact that a tort is both legal and culinary. I 'tweren't.

I did try to play a lawyer once with one of my scammers...my "Release of Hold Harry the Hamas Hamster Harmless" document to a scammer would have been better writ by a real lawyer, including one in the 5-9 year old range.

Oh well...even my word to verify h'yar is demanding that I "uncess"...I didn't know I was cessing. Can I hire Mr. M?

gudnuff said...

First, I read this post during our department meeting this morning at 10am. So, THANK YOU for the distraction. You saved me from much needless verbal folly. Second, hats off to The Mother for this little gem: "...organized...chronologically, by smell." OMG! That's another one I'm going to steal. And apply it to my office. Because it's true.

honeypiehorse said...

I often think of my oldest as a little lawyer but you really put it into context. . .

bernthis said...

If I had a dime for every time I thought "that kid's going to be a hell of a lawyer when he grows up" I'd be a very rich woman

Michele Renee said...

Lawyer Mom--your commentors are hysterical. Should you change Mr. M's name to Mr. Lawyer Son?
My oldest is a great negotiator who makes sure he gets his words in last. My middle always thinks of those not as able to he would advocate for new Disability Acts and that kind of stuff. The youngest--will get the jury to laugh and flash his dimples.

kimmirich said...

How TRUE!!! Lol. excellent post!

kimmirich said...

How TRUE!!! Lol. excellent post!

Don said...

Kids are crooked lawyers - can't get more honest than that without being rude! And they don't get better after they grow up; our's is almost 40!

LadyFi said...

Hilarious! Hope you feel better... I do, after reading this re-hash... Who says that warmed up leftovers aren't funny!

Debbie said...

These skills are exactly why I am begging my middle son to become a lawyer.

Rodell said...

Hiya,

Thanks for your kind words over at Kimmi's blog. She's great and has a wonderful bunch of friendly and supportive readers.

Love your blog!

Best,

Chris R.

The Stiletto Mom said...

I remember this one! I hope you are feeling better...if not, I'm just going to hook you up to a vodka IV tonight until you forget you are sick!

Wendy said...

Love it! I hope you feel better soon. Coincidentally, I had one of those "lawyer kid moments" myself. It's disconcerting when you get the eerie feeling that your kid can outmaneuver you already. Somedays I feel like I don't stand a chance.

Wendy said...

Do you have a zombie chicken yet? If not, you have one now!

Meximom said...

So sorry that you are sick. I do love this re-hashed post, though! It really is true. We call my oldest, Senator for these very reasons!

Feel better!

Christine said...

I love this. I'm sending it to my brother, an attorney, expecting his first child soon. I found that there is also a lot of "leading the witness" by my mini litigators when asking their siblings to prove their innocence, worthiness, etc...

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